Stones on DECCA

Their Satanic Majesties Request

Page created on Jan 3, 2010
Updated on Jul 31, 2023
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Released in UK on December 8th 1967

This one exists in both Mono and Stereo versions. The sixth album on DECCA in UK is musically totally different from anything they had done before, or after. It really stands out from the rest of their production, either you like it or you don’t. But it is an interesting LP from a collecting point of view. It is mostly famous for the 3D picture on the cover. The manufacturing of the 3D picture is said to have been a very costly matter, even more costly than the actual retail price of the record. Decca and London actually lost money for every copy sold. It sold pretty well in the beginning, so the 3D cover is not that rare.

This LP has the same LP numbering and label colour system as Big Hits. TXL is a mono LP with a blue label and TXS is a stereo LP with a green label. This blue / green color combination on the label denotes that it is a record pressed with so called “virgin vinyl”. The standard red / blue combination records used partly re-used vinyl.

Vinyl versions

Grooved and non-grooved labels

To date we have seen only stereo LP’s with both grooved and non grooved labels. A mono LP on a non-grooved pressing has not yet been found.

True Mono and fold down from Stereo to Mono, two different mixes existing

The mono LP of Satanic is existing in two different versions. The original master tape was mixed two times, the first one was used for mono records only and the second one was used both for mono and stereo records. The two mixes used for pressing mono records can be identified by the matrix number.

The first mix that was used on mono records has the following matrix number:

ARL-8126-1P on side one and ARL-8127-P1 on side two

The second mix that was used on later mono records and on all stereo records has:

Mono: ARL-8126-T2-2K for side one and ARL-8127-T2-2K for side two
Stereo: ZAL-8126-T2-5K for side one and ZAL-8127-T2-5K for side two

The last two digits may change from one record to another, the letter is identifying the person who cut the original Master Lacquer, also called acetate. The last number before the letter indicates how many times Mr K has re-cut a new Master Lacquer. The key indicator on Satanic is the T2. Decca used to identify a new mix by adding the code T2 and Satanic is the only LP that has been cut and pressed from two different mixes and where it is possible to confirm this through the matrix numbers. This way of working was common on 7” single records, they had T1 indicated that it was Take 1 of the title. If the producer rejected the take, he would remix the track and then it become Take 2.

A LP that do not have the T2 in the full matrix numbers is a true mono mix. If the LP has the T2 code, then it is basically a stereo mix that has been folded down to one channel for mono sound. You can actually hear the difference in between a “non T2” true mono pressing and a T2 stereo fold down to mono pressing. Take the song “The Lantern” for example, there is a bell tolling in the beginning of the song:

A true mono record has the bell tolling three times before the music starts (matrix ARL-8127-xx)
A fold down from stereo to mono AND a real stereo LP has the bell tolling two times before the music starts. (matrix ARL or ZAL-8127-T2-xx)
There may also be other differences on the sound.

Decca is very well known for not having any "quality control" implemented in their daily work routines. That is why you may also find mono records with a combination of one side with truer mono mix and the other side with a fold down mono mix. One record with T2 on side one and P1 on side two has been confirmed to exist.

Cover versions

The original 3D cover vs non 3D cover

The three-dimensional picture on the cover of Satanic was used for the first issue of the LP. Majority of the non-boxed LP’s are found in the 3D sleeve. Early boxed stereo LP’s with the green label can also be found i 3D covers.

Two different pictures were used for the cover, Jagger’s hat is leaning to his left on the 3D picture and to his right on the non 3D covers.

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Friends on the cover

Another feature on the cover is that all Beatles members heads can be found there. Some members of the two bands were hanging out with each other at this point in time. Several Stones members had participated in the “All You Need Is Love” recording and TV broadcast and “The Rolling Stones” text was also included on the Sargent Pepper album.

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1980's 3D pictures

This is probably some of the 3D pictures found in Decca’s warehouse in the early 80’s and reused for sleeves made in 1983. More of this below.

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Back cover / version 1, 1967-1968

All 3D covers have the Mono and Stereo numbers printed in the lower right corner.

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3D cover with green boxed stereo LP

Decca still had a set of original 3D sleeves at the time when they changed over to boxed logo on the LP’s. The first boxed Stereo LP’s in 1970 had a green label and they can sometimes be found in 3D sleeves. I have a copy in my collection that is in a stereo sleeve. That is label design 10 / version 1 a bit down on the page. It has a plain white innerbag.

Another boxed green Stereo copy is known to be in a Mono sleeve and the innerbag has a date code as 6-70. This picture is from that original Mono sleeve. They have just added a sticker to change it into a Stereo LP. It does not have the Mono/Stereo hole on the back as it is an original 1967 sleeve.

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Stereo Sticker

Here is another mono sleeve that got the same stereo sticker. This copy has the stereo sticker on the front as well. The LP in this sleeve is a non-grooved non-boxed stereo, design 9 version 5.

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Back cover / version 2, 1968-1970

The Mono / Stereo hole as can be seen on the next picture was probably taken into use in 1969. This sleeve was mainly used for boxed LP’s. I do have a Stereo non boxed LP in this sleeve as well. No 3D pictures have been found on sleeves with the hole.

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Back cover / version 3, 1982

The 3D did make a return in 1983. Rumor is that boxes with original unused 3D pictures were found when cleaning out Decca’s warehouse in the beginning of the 80’s. They decided to use the pictures and therefor a set of stereo LP’s were pressed for them as well as new sleeves. The 1982/83 reprinted glossy sleeve used for the original 3D pictures is looking like this on the back side. Left picture is lower right corner and right picture is upper right corner. It is therefore easy to identify it as a reprint. Blue boxed label design 12 / version 1 is inside this cover.

The same cover is also existing without the 3D picture. The inner bag in one of the 3D covers has this dating. Another known copy has an innerbag with the same patent number and dated as 1/83.

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Back cover text

There are two versions of the Copyright text existing. The first one has only Decca in England noted as copyright owner. The second version has also London US noted as copyright owner in addition to Decca UK. All 3D covers have the first version and all non 3D covers have the second version. The reason for this change was probably that Decca pressed a small set of “London Records” LP’s in UK in 1968 for export to Japan and the copyright owner in Japan at the time was London Records.

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Text on covers with 3D pictures.

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Text on covers with Mono / Stereo hole.

Printed By

All covers have the same Printed By text on the back cover. “Printed in England by Robert Stace.” No variations are known to exist.

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Spine text on sleeves, early versions

Early versions of the 3D sleeve have the spine text going from the bottom and up. Mainly non-boxed LP’s can be found in this sleeve.
This early version can be found both on Mono as well as Stereo albums.

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Spine text on sleeves, standard version

Later versions of the 3D sleeve have the spine text going from the top down. Generally, this sleeve is used for boxed label LP’s but you may also find non boxed labels in it.

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Label versions

Lots of label version are existing. Here are a few of them. Mono LP’s have so far been found only with the non-boxed label and Stereo LP’s can be found with both non boxed and boxed labels.

Mono non boxed labels - Side 1

Side 1 / Design No 5 / Version 1 (TXL103/S1/D5/V1)

Copyright box: Missing
Font: Time New Romans looking font style
Tax Code: Missing
Publishers: On the left side of the label

Bill Wyman is as big as The Rolling Stones on this version. Side 1 is on the right side of the spindle hole. The title name of Sing This All Together on one line.

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Side 1 / Design No 5 / Version 2 (TXL103/S1/D5/V2)

Copyright box: Missing
Font: Time New Romans looking font style
Tax Code: Missing
Publishers: On the left side of the label

The Rolling Stones is as big a Wyman on this version. Side 1 is on the left side of the spindle hole. The title name of Sing This All Together is divided into two lines.

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Side 1 / Design No 5 / Version 3 (TXL103/S1/D5/V3)

Copyright box: Missing
Font: Arial looking font style
Tax Code: Missing
Publishers: On the left side of the label

Font style is changed into Arial. Side 1 is on the right side of the spindle hole. The title name of Sing This All Together is on one line. Bill Wyman is still in large letters.

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Side 1 / Design No 5 / Version 4 (TXL103/S1/D5/V4)

Copyright box: Missing
Font: Time New Romans looking font style
Tax Code: Missing
Publishers: On the left side of the label

Side 1 is on the left side of the spindle hole. The title name of Sing This All Together is divided into two lines. Bill Wyman is now in smaller letters than Rolling Stones.

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Mono non boxed labels - Side 2

Side 2 / Design No 5 / Version 1 (TXL103/S2/D5/V1)

Copyright box: Missing
Font: Time New Romans looking font style
Tax Code: Missing
Publishers: On the left side of the label

Side 2 is on the right side of the spindle hole.

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Side 2 / Design No 5 / Version 2 (TXL103/S2/D5/V2)

Copyright box: Missing
Font: Time New Romans looking font style
Tax Code: Missing
Publishers: On the left side of the label

Side 2 is on the left side of the spindle hole.

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Side 2 / Design No 5 / Version 3 (TXL103/S2/D5/V3)

Copyright box: Missing
Font: Arial looking font style
Tax Code: Missing
Publishers: On the left side of the label

The font style has been changed to Arial and Side 2 is again on the right side of the spindle hole.

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Stereo non boxed label - Side 1

Side 1 / Design No null / Version null (TXL 103/S1/Dnull/Vnull)

Copyright box: Missing
Font: Time New Romans looking font style
Tax Code: Missing
Publishers: On the left side of the label

“Original Recording By” is printed on the left side of the Decca logo. This text can only be found on first printings and was then changed to the standard “Made in England By”. Side number is on the right side of the label and the REG. after the DECCA logo is missing. Bill Wyman is as big as The Rolling Stones. Speed 33 is missing as well.

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Side 1 / Design No 9 / Version 2 (TXS103/S1/D9/V2)

Copyright box: Missing
Font: Time New Romans looking font style
Tax Code: Missing
Publishers: On the left side of the label

Side number 1 is on the left side of the label and the “Regd.” after the DECCA logo is in place. Bill Wyman text is now much smaller than The Rolling Stones. Speed 33 is in place. The title name of Sing This All Together is divided into two lines.

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Side 1 / Design No 9 / Version 3 (TXS103/S1/D9/V3)

Copyright box: Missing
Font: Arial looking font style
Tax Code: Missing
Publishers: On the left side of the label

Side number 1 is on the left side of the label and the “Regd.” after the DECCA logo is in place. Bill Wyman is as big as The Rolling Stones. Speed 33 is in place.

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Side 1 / Design No 9 / Version 4 (TXS103/S1/D9/V4)

Copyright box: Missing
Font: Arial looking font style
Tax Code: Missing
Publishers: On the left side of the label

Side number 1 is on the right side of the label and the “Regd.” after the DECCA logo is in place. Bill Wyman is as big as The Rolling Stones. Speed 33 is missing again. This label can be found on grooved pressings as well as on non-grooved pressings.

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Side 1 / Design No 9 / Version 5 (TXS103/S1/D9/V5)

Copyright box: Missing
Font: Arial looking font style
Tax Code: Missing
Publishers: After the song titles

Side number 1 is on the left side of the label and the “Regd.” after the DECCA logo is in place. Bill Wyman is smaller than The Rolling Stones. Speed 33 is to the left of the spindle hole. There is a line in between the number and the song title. This label can be found on non-grooved pressings.

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Stereo non boxed label - Side 2

Side 2 / Design No 9 / Version 1 (TXS103/S2/D9/V1)

Copyright box: Missing
Font: Time New Romans looking font style
Tax Code: Missing
Publishers: On the left side of the label

“Original Recording By” is printed on the left side of the Decca logo. This text can only be found on first printings and was then changed to the standard “Made in England By”. Side number is on the right side of the label and the “Regd.” after the DECCA logo is missing. Speed 33 is missing as well.

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Side 2 / Design No 9 / Version 2 (TXS103/S2/D9/V2)

Copyright box: Missing
Font: Time New Romans looking font style
Tax Code: Missing
Publishers: On the left side of the label

Side number is on the left side of the label and the “Regd.” after the DECCA logo is in place. Speed 33 is also given.

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Side 2 / Design No 9 / Version 3 (TXS103/S2/D9/V3)

Copyright box: Missing
Font: Arial looking font style
Tax Code: Missing
Publishers: On the left side of the label

Side number 2 is on the left side of the label and the “Regd.” after the DECCA logo is in place. Speed 33 is also included. Font style has been changed to Arial.

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Side 2 / Design No 9 / Version 4 (TXS103/S2/D9/V4)

Copyright box: Missing
Font: Arial looking font style
Tax Code: Missing
Publishers: On the left side of the label

Side number 2 is on the right side of the label and the “Regd.”. after the DECCA logo is in place. Speed 33 is missing again. This Label can be found on grooved pressings as well as on non-grooved pressings.

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Side 2 / Design No 9 / Version 5 (TXS103/S1/D9/V5)

Copyright box: Missing
Font: Arial looking font style
Tax Code: Missing
Publishers: After the song titles

Side number 2 is on the left side of the label and the “Regd.” after the DECCA logo is in place. Speed 33 is to the left of the spindle hole. There is a line in between the number and the song title. This label can be found on non-grooved pressings.

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Stereo boxed label - Side 1

Side 1 / Design No 10 / Version 1 (TXS103/S1/D10/V1)

Publishing year: At the bottom of the label
Font style: Times New Roman looking font
Estimated use: 1970 to 1972

This is the green boxed label taken into use in 1970. This label can be found in original 3D sleeves.

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Side 1 / Design No 10 / Version 2 (TXS103/S1/D10/V2)

Publishing year: At the bottom of the label
Font style: Arial looking font
Estimated use: 1970 to 1972

An Arial font is used for this label. The color is still green.

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Side 1 / Design No 10 / Version 3 (TXS103/S1/D10/V3)

Publishing year: At the bottom of the label
Font style: Arial looking font
Estimated use: 1972 to 1973

This label is almost identical to version 2 but they changed the color to grayish blue. This would be the first grayish blue label used.
This label can also be found in sleeves with the original 3D picture and the mono / stereo hole on the flip side.

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Side 1 / Design No 11 / Version 1 (TXS103/S1/D11/V1)

Publishing year: On the right side of the label
Font style: Times New Roman looking font
Estimated use: 1972 and later

Here is another greyish blue label from mid 70’s. Font is Times New Roman on this one and the publishing year is on the right side of the label.

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Side 1 / Design No 12 / Version 1 (TXS103/S1/D12/V1)

Publishing year: On the right side of the label
Font style: Arial looking font
Estimated use: 1982

This is a 1982 pressing on thin vinyl with the rim around the edge of the label. Two vinyl pressings existing, one flat center and another one with a ring pressed around the center.

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Stereo boxed label - Side 2

Side 2 / Design No 10 / Version 1 (TXS103/S2/D10/V1)

Publishing year: At the bottom of the label
Font style: Times New Roman looking font
Estimated use: 1970 to 1972

This is the green boxed label taken into use in 1970. This label can be found in original 3D sleeves.

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Side 2 / Design No 10 / Version 2 (TXS103/S2/D10/V2)

Publishing year: At the bottom of the label
Font style: Arial looking font
Estimated use: 1970 to 1972

An Arial font is used for this label. The color is still green.

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Side 2 / Design No 10 / Version 3 (TXS103/S2/D10/V3)

Publishing year: At the bottom of the label
Font style: Arial looking font
Estimated use: 1972 to 1973

This label is almost identical to version 2 but they changed the color to grayish blue. This would be the first grayish blue label used.
This label can also be found in sleeves with the original 3D picture and the mono / stereo hole on the flip side.

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Side 2 / Design No 11 / Version 1 (TXS103/S2/D11/V1)

Publishing year: On the right side of the label
Font style: Times New Roman looking font
Estimated use: 1972 and later

Here is another greyish blue label from mid 70’s. Font is Times New Roman on this one and the publishing year is on the right side of the label.

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Side 2 / Design No 12 / Version 1 (TXS103/S2/D12/V1)

Publishing year: On the right side of the label
Font style: Arial looking font
Estimated use: 1982

This is a 1982 pressing on thin vinyl with the rim around the edge of the label. Two vinyl pressings existing, one flat center and another one with a ring pressed around the center.

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Stereo boxed white label

Design No 10 / Version W (TXS103/S1/D10/VW) & (TXS103/S1/D10/VW)

White label version from 1973.

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80's silver labels

Design No 13 / Version 1 (TXS103/S1/D13/V1) & (TXS103/S2/D13/V1)

Early 80’s pressing with the first type of silver label.

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Stereo Sample Record

Design No 9 / Version 3 (S1/D9/V3 + S2/D9/V3)

Promo copies of Satanic had this sticker on the label. No “promotional” is mentioned anywhere on the LP, only Sample Record on the sticker.

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Cover and LP combinations existing

Cover and LP combinations existing

Cover: 3D cover – Mono TXL103 Vinyl: non boxed / blue
Cover: 3D cover – Stereo TXS103 Vinyl: non boxed / green
Cover: 3D cover – Stereo TXS103 Vinyl: boxed / green
Cover: 3D cover – Stereo TXS103 Vinyl: boxed / blue
Cover: non 3D – M/S hole with Mono LP Vinyl: non boxed / blue
Cover: non 3D – M/S hole with Stereo LP Vinyl: non boxed / green
Cover: non 3D – M/S hole with Stereo LP Vinyl: boxed / white
Cover: non 3D – M/S hole with Stereo LP Vinyl: boxed / bluegray
Cover: non 3D – with Stereo LP Vinyl: Silver colored 80’s print