Stones on DECCA

Have You Seen Your Mother LIVE!

Mono LK4838 / Stereo SKL4838

Issued in Europe in the end of 1966 or possibly in January 1967

No exact issue date have been found. The US Got Live If You Want It was issued on December 10th 1966.

This is an UK made LP but it was never sold in UK during the 60’s. It was mostly sold in Scandinavia and possibly also in Germany. It became available in UK in the mid 70’s with the boxed logo. Part of the record was also put out in UK officially in 1971 on the LP Gimme Shelter. The B side on Shelter was a mixture of songs taken from Have You Seen. The LP naturally sold in very small quantities and is one of the most difficult Stones LP’s from the 60’s to find today, especially the mono version. Less than 10 copies has been for sale on e-bay the last ten or so years.


This was the first Rolling Stones live album on DECCA. Well, was it LIVE? Some sources say that is was all studio recordings with added audience noice. Some are of the opinion that it partly is studio material and mostly live. The following information has come my way as of when and where the recordings took place, if they were live…

Under My Thumb – City Hall, Newcastle, October 1, 1966
Get Off My Cloud – City Hall, Newcastle, October 1, 1966
The Last Time – City Hall, Newcastle, October 1, 1966
19th Nervous Breakdown – City Hall, Newcastle, October 1, 1966
Lady Jane – Colston Hall, Bristol, October 7, 1966
Not Fade Away – Colston Hall, Bristol, October 7, 1966
Time Is On My Side – Colston Hall, Bristol, October 7, 1966
I´m Alright – Colston Hall, Bristol, October 7, 1966
Have You Seen Your Mother.. – Colston Hall, Bristol, October 7, 1966
(I Can Get No) Satisfaction – Colston Hall, Bristol, October 7, 1966
Three audio tracks are audible; vocals, crowd and band in that order.

2 tracks would be studio takes, I´ve Been Loving You Too Long and Fortune Teller.
These two were recorded between 11-20 October 1966 at IBC Studios and overdubbed with audience noise.

Another interesting opining has also been given to me by Stones collector Roy-Erik Andersen:

The master used for the UK LP is a different one than the master used for the US version. In fact they differ so much in production and performance that they could almost be listed as two different albums. And the most crucial fact is that NONE of the albums ever were recorded live. It’s all studio outtakes with overdubbed audience

More interesting info: During Under My Thumb you can hear Brian and Keith play guitars, but who plays the marimba? During Not Fade Away you hear an acoustic guitar. There are quite a lot of extra instruments that shouldn’t be there if these tracks were recorded live.

This needs to be investigated more closely.

Vinyl versions

Grooved Label

Stereo LP’s can be found with grooved and non grooved labels. Mono is known to exist only as grooved LP’s.

Matrix numbers on stereo LP's

I have not generally taken up matrix number issues on my pages for individual LP’s. But on this LP there is though an interesting feature that can be mentioned:
As the pressing of this LP was very small, the pressing plates did not wear out. All my stereo copies, beginning with original -67 grooved label on to the last boxed 70’s print have the same matrix numbers:

Side 1 : ZAL 7517-1W
Side 2 : ZAL 7518-1W

Cover versions

This is a rather non interesting LP to work with from a collectors point of view. There are no cover versions to look for whatsoever. All covers are looking the same, from the very first print in 1967 to the last one made in mid 70’s.

Mono and Stereo on the front cover

Mono and Stereo on the back cover

Printed By

Most of the covers has “Printed in England by MacNeill Press London” . Late 70’s / early 80’s covers were printed by Robert Stace. The same boxed label can be found in both MacNeill and Stace made covers.

Label versions

This LP was pressed in rather small quantities compared to other Stones LP’s from the same time. Not very many label versions exists because of this.

Mono non boxed label

Design No 4 / Version 1 (LK4838/S1/D4/V1) + (LK4888/S2/D4/V1)

Copyright box: BIEM box on the right side of the label
Font: Times New Roman looking font style
Tax Code: K/T and S
Publishers: On the left side of the label

Original label from 1966. So far has only one version of the label been found.

Stereo nonboxed labels - Side 1

Side 1 / Design No 9 / Version 1 (SKL4838/S1/D9/V1)

Copyright box: BIEM and NCB on the left side of the label
Font: Times New Roman looking font style
Tax Code: No tax code
Publishers: After each song
Publishing year: At the bottom of the label
Side number: On the left side of the label

The tax code is missing and that would indicate that this pressing is from 1968. It still has the grooved pressing under the label. There is a dot separating the SKL and 4838 on the catalogue number.

Side 1 / Design No 9 / Version 2 (SKL4838/S1/D9/V1)

Copyright box: BIEM and NCB on the left side of the label
Font: Times New Roman looking font style
Tax Code: No tax code
Publishers: After each song
Publishing year: At the bottom of the label
Side number: On the left side of the label

The catalogue number SKL 4838 is in smaller font than the previous version and there is no dot in between SKL and 4838. This label has been used on grooved and nongrooved pressings of the LP. The text is a bit closer to the FFSS bar on the nongrooved LP but the difference is so small so I have not considered it to be a different version as all other detail are identical.

Stereo nonboxed labels - Side 2

Side 2 / Design No 9 / Version 1 (SKL4838/S2/D9/V1)

Copyright box: BIEM and NCB on the left side of the label
Font: Times New Roman looking font style
Tax Code: No tax code
Publishers: After each song
Publishing year: At the bottom of the label
Side number: On the left side of the label

The tax code is missing and that would indicate that this pressing is from 1968. It still has the grooved pressing under the label. There is a dot separating the SKL and 4838 on the catalogue number.

Side 2 / Design No 9 / Version 2 (SKL4838/S2/D9/V2)

Copyright box: BIEM and NCB on the left side of the label
Font: Times New Roman looking font style
Tax Code: No tax code
Publishers: After each song
Publishing year: At the bottom of the label
Side number: On the left side of the label

The catalogue number SKL 4838 is in smaller font than the previous version and there is no dot in between SKL and 4838. This label has been used on grooved and nongrooved pressings of the LP. The text is a bit closer to the FFSS bar on the nongrooved LP but the difference is so small so I have not considered it to be a different version as all other detail are identical.

Stereo boxed label

Design No 10 / Version 1 (SKL4838/S1/D10/V1) + (SKL4838/S2/D10/V1)

Publishing year: At the bottom of the label
Font style: Ariel looking font

Estimated use: 1970 to 1972.

Design No 12 / Version 1 (SKL4838/S1/D12/V1) + (SKL4838/S2/D12/V1)

Publishing year: On the left side of the label
Font style: Ariel looking font
Estimated use: 1982

Early 80’s pressing with “rim label”. This is pressed on very thin vinyl.

Explanation on label design numbering can be found here.

Counterfeit Warning

One counterfeit vinyl of the Mono nonboxed version has surfaced in 2011. The LP is being offered to Stonescollectors by an English trader who also sells a lot of material on e-bay. This LP has not yet been on the bay but offered directly. If you ever are offered a mono HYSYML LP, please ask for good quality pictures and have a close look on the labels. Please aslo ask for matrix numbers. The LP is being offered without any sleeve.

The LP to the left is the real LP and the one to the right is the fake LP.

The person who made the fake LP has downloaded the pictures of the labels from this page and made photocopies of them. Then they have been put on an US made mono Got Live If You Want It and offered as a real Decca mono LP. By the way, the same person who did this LP is also heavily into counterfaith activities on acetates and testpressings as well.

Page history

Created Feb 2010

Updated:
May 15th 2010 Test pressing pics added
October 31st 2010 Major change to label design numbers.
November 19th 2010 mono test pressing added
September 1st 2011 FAKE mono LP added
December 12th 2011 New pics on the Mono LP added
January 23rd 2015 cover printed by Robert Stace added, thanks to Lari Keränen

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