have you seen your mother LIVE!

 

 

 

Mono LK4838

Stereo SKL4838

 

 

Issued in Europe in the end of 1966 or possibly in January 1967


No exact issue date have been found. The US Got Live If You Want It was issued on December 10th 1966

 

This is an UK made LP but it was never sold in UK during the 60’s. It was mostly sold in Scandinavia and possibly also in Germany. It became available in UK in the beginning of the 70's with the boxed logo. Part of the record was also put out in UK officially in 1971 on the LP Gimme Shelter. The B side on Shelter was a mixture of songs taken from Have You Seen. The LP naturally sold in very small quantities and is one of the most difficult Stones LP's from the 60's to find today, especially in excellent condition.
It has been debated for a long time about the existance of a Mono LP as well. An acetate in Mono has been know to exist, but an actual stock pressing? This issue is now finally resolved. The Mono LP is existing and confirmed with pictures added to this page in August of 2009

This was the first Rolling Stones live album on DECCA. Well, was it LIVE? Some sources say that is was all studio recordings with added audience noice. Some are of the opinion that it partly is studio material and mostly live. The following information has come my way as of when and where the recordings took place, if they were live...

 

Under My Thumb - City Hall, Newcastle, October 1, 1966
Get Off My Cloud - City Hall, Newcastle, October 1, 1966
The Last Time - City Hall, Newcastle, October 1, 1966
19th Nervous Breakdown - City Hall, Newcastle, October 1, 1966
Lady Jane - Colston Hall, Bristol, October 7, 1966
Not Fade Away - Colston Hall, Bristol, October 7, 1966
Time Is On My Side - Colston Hall, Bristol, October 7, 1966
I´m Alright - Colston Hall, Bristol, October 7, 1966
Have You Seen Your Mother.. - Colston Hall, Bristol, October 7, 1966
(I Can Get No) Satisfaction - Colston Hall, Bristol, October 7, 1966
Three audio tracks are audible; vocals, crowd and band in that order.

2 tracks would be studio takes, I´ve Been Loving You Too Long and Fortune Teller.
These two were recorded between 11-20 October 1966 at IBC Studios and overdubbed with audience noise.

 

Another interesting opining has also been given to me by Stones collector Roy-Erik Andersen:

The master used for the UK LP is a different one than the master used for the US version. In fact they differ so much in production and performance that they could almost be listed as two different albums. And the most crucial fact is that NONE of the albums ever were recorded live. It's all studio outtakes with overdubbed audience

 

More interesting info: During Under My Thumb you can hear Brian and Keith play guitars, but who plays the marimba? During Not Fade Away you hear an acoustic guitar. There are quite a lot of extra instruments that shouldn't be there if these tracks were recorded live.

 

This needs to be investigated more closely.

 

 

Vinyl versions

 

 

Grooved label

 

Stereo LP's can be found with grooved and non grooved labels. Mono is known to exist only as grooved LP’s

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Matrix numbers on stereo LP's

 

I have not generally taken up matrix number issues on my pages still for individual LP's. But they will be here someday. On this LP there is though an interesting feature that can be mentioned:
As the pressing of this LP was very small, the pressing plates did not ware out. All my copies, beginning with original -67 grooved label on to the last boxed 70's print have the same matrix numbers:

Side 1 : ZAL 7517-1W
Side 2 : ZAL 7518-1W

 

 

 

Cover versions

 

This is a rather non interesting LP to work with from a collectors point of view. There are no cover versions to look for what so ever. All covers are looking the same, from the very first print in 1967 to the last one made in mid 70's.

 

Mono and Stereo on the front cover

 

 

 

 

Mono and Stereo on the back cover

 

 

 

 

Here are full pictures of front and back sleeve on the mono version of "have you seen your mother LIVE!" .

 

   

 

 

Printed By

 

All covers have the same "Printed in England by MacNeill Press London"

 

 

 

 

Label versions

 

This LP was pressed in rather small quantities compared to other Stones LP's from the same time. Not very many label versions exists because of this.  

 

 

Mono nonboxed label

 

 

Design No 4 / Version 1 (LK4838/S1/D4/V1) + (LK4888/S2/D4/V1)

 

Copyright box: BIEM box on the right side of the label

Font: Times New Roman looking font style

Tax Code: K/T and S

Publishers: On the left side of the label

 

Original label from 1966. So far has only one version of the label been found

 

  

 

 

 

 

 Stereo nonboxed labels

 

Side 1

 

 

Side 1 / Design No 9 / Version 1 (SKL4838/S1/D9/V1)

 

Copyright box: BIEM and NCB on the left side of the label

Font: Times New Roman looking font style

Tax Code: No tax code

Publishers: After each song

Publishing year: At the bottom of the label

Side number: On the left side of the label

 

The tax code is missing and that would indicate that this pressing is from 1968. It still has the grooved pressing under the label. There is a dot separating the SKL and 4838 on the catalogue number.

 

 

 

Side 1 / Design No 9 / Version 2 (SKL4838/S1/D9/V1)

 

Copyright box: BIEM and NCB on the left side of the label

Font: Times New Roman looking font style

Tax Code: No tax code

Publishers: After each song

Publishing year: At the bottom of the label

Side number: On the left side of the label

 

The catalogue number SKL 4838 is in smaller font than the previous version and there is no dot in between SKL and 4838. This label has been used on grooved and nongrooved pressings of the LP. The text is a bit closer to the FFSS bar on the nongrooved LP but the difference is so small so I have not considered it to be a different version as all other detail are identical.

 

  

 

 

Stereo nonboxed labels

 

Side 2

 

 

Side 2 / Design No 9 / Version 1 (SKL4838/S2/D9/V1)

 

Copyright box: BIEM and NCB on the left side of the label

Font: Times New Roman looking font style

Tax Code: No tax code

Publishers: After each song

Publishing year: At the bottom of the label

Side number: On the left side of the label

 

The tax code is missing and that would indicate that this pressing is from 1968. It still has the grooved pressing under the label. There is a dot separating the SKL and 4838 on the catalogue number.

 

 

 

 

Side 2 / Design No 9 / Version 2 (SKL4838/S2/D9/V2)

 

Copyright box: BIEM and NCB on the left side of the label

Font: Times New Roman looking font style

Tax Code: No tax code

Publishers: After each song

Publishing year: At the bottom of the label

Side number: On the left side of the label

 

The catalogue number SKL 4838 is in smaller font than the previous version and there is no dot in between SKL and 4838. This label has been used on grooved and nongrooved pressings of the LP. The text is a bit closer to the FFSS bar on the nongrooved LP but the difference is so small so I have not considered it to be a different version as all other detail are identical

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

Stereo boxed label

 

 

Design No 10 / Version 1 (SKL4838/S1/D10/V1) + (SKL4838/S2/D10/V1)

 

Publisihing year: At the bottom of the label

Font style: Ariel looking font

Estimated use: 1970 to 1972

 

  

 

 

Design No 12 / Version 1 (SKL4838/S1/D12/V1) + (SKL4838/S2/D12/V1)

 

Publisihing year: On the left side of the label

Font style: Ariel looking font

Estimated use: 1982

 

Early 80's pressing with "rim label". This is pressed on very thin viny.

 

 

 

 

Explanation on label design numbering can be found here

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Counterfeith Warning 

 

One counterfeith vinyl of the Mono nonboxed version has surfaced in 2011. The LP is being offered to Stonescollectors by an English trader who also sells a lot of material on e-bay. This LP has not yet been on the bay but offered directly. If you ever are offered a mono HYSYML LP, please ask for good quality pictures and have a close look on the labels. Please aslo ask for matrix numbers. The LP is being offerd without any sleeve.

 

The LP to the left is the real LP and the one to the right is the fake LP.

 

        

 

The person who made the fake LP has downloaded the pictures of the labels from this page and made photocopies of them. Then they have been put on an US made mono Got Live If You Want It and offered as a real Decca mono LP. By the way, the same person who did this LP is also heavily into counterfaith activities on acetates and testpressings as vell.

 

 

 

Page history


Created Feb 2010
May 15th 2010, Test pressing pics added
October 31st 2010, Major change to label design numbers.
November 19th 2010, mono test pressing added
September 1st 2011, FAKE mono LP added
December 12th 2011, New pics on the Mono LP added