ROLLING STONES

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LK 4605

 

 

Issued in UK on April 17th 1964. This one exists only in Mono version.

 

This their first elpee is an interesting item to collect in many respects. You can find lots of variations on the cover, on the label and on the vinyl itself. Many combinations of label and cover versions can be found as well.

Here is a presentation on some of the differences existing. These pages do not include all known versions.

 

 

 

Vinyl versions

 

 

There are two different recordings of Tell Me on the first LP.

 

Tell Me short version.

This one plays only 2,52 minutes and is a totally different take than the long one. Jaggers singing and Bills bass are clearly different. The rumour is that the producer by mistake used the wrong demo tape for the acetate. Tell Me is on B side of the LP and the matrix number is XARL6272-1A. For some reason they did not get it right on the second matrix either as number XARL6272-2A is with the short demo version as well

Tell Me long version.

The mistake of the demo version was discovered pretty fast and it was replaced with the correct recording of the song. This one is a different take and plays 4,06 minutes. The matrix was again changed and has XARL6272-3A.
All higher numbers are with the long version.

 

 

 

 

 

Tell Me short version with the first matrix number on B side, XARL6272-1A

 

 

 

 

Tell Me short version with the second matrix number on B side, XARL6272-2A. This is the full set of pictures from the same LP with labels and Matrix numbers. To be noted is that this LP has a combination of –2A on both side 1 and side 2

 

   

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

Grooved label

 

The grooved label is in use until the summer of 1968. LK4605 is existing with the non grooved pressing as well. This proves that LK4605 was pressed later than summer of 1968 and up to the end of 1969 when the non boxed DECCA was changed into boxed DECCA logo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cover versions

 

 

There are at least three main versions existing of song title and credit combinations on the back cover.

 

 

First cover

 

The very first version had the "MONO" text in the upper right corner missing.

The song titles and credits are identical to the third cover. Honest I Do is credited to Reed and "I Need You Baby" is on the sleeve. There are a few copies existing with a “MONA” correction stamp. Seams to be that they had some difficulties with deciding the title for that song.

 

Side One
ROUTE 66 (Troup)
I JUST WANNA MAKE LOVE TO YOU (Dixon)

HONEST I DO (Reed)
I NEED YOU BABY
(McDaniels)
NOW I GOT A WITNESS (Phelge) the uncles, Phil is before Gene
LITTLE BY LITTLE (Phelge, Spector)

Side Two
I’M A KING BEE (Moore)
CAROL (Berry)
TELL ME (You’re Coming Back) (Jagger, Richards)
CAN I GET A WITNESS (E. & B. Holland, Dozier)
YOU CAN MAKE IT IF YOU TRY (Jarret)
WALKING THE DOG (Thomas)

 

 

 

So there are actually three different versions of the "missing MONO LK4605" cover:

-          "I Need You Baby" / MONO missing with flipback cover

-          "I Need You Baby" / MONO missing with nonflipback cover

-          "I Need You Baby" / MONO missing with the correction stamp

 

The copy with the correction stamp MONA is in the "stone-relics" collection.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Second cover

 

The next one has the "MONO" text in place. Lots of changes was done to the text. Interestingly the "if" has been dropped from "You Can Make It If You Try". “Honest I Do” got Hurran and Calvert song credits and “I Need You Baby” was replaced with Mona. Dosier was spelled with a B in the beginning. The set of songs and credits are given as:

 

Side One
ROUTE 66 (Troup)
I JUST WANNA MAKE LOVE TO YOU (Dixon)
HONEST I DO
(Hurran, Calvert)
MONA
(McDaniels)
NOW I GOT A WITNESS (Phelge) the uncles, now Gene is before Phil
LITTLE BY LITTLE (Phelge, Spector)

 

Side, Two
I’M A KING BEE (Moore)
CAROL (Berry)
TELL ME (You’re Coming Back) (Jagger, Richards)
CAN I GET A WITNESS (E. & B. Holland, Bozier)
YOU CAN MAKE IT YOU TRY (Jarret)
WALKING THE DOG (Thomas)

 

 

 

 

Third cover

 

The third cover is again basically the same as the first cover. The difference is that this cover has the MONO text in the upper right corner and that was missing on the first press. This version remained in production into the boxed days of the 70's and 80's.

 

Side One
ROUTE 66 (Troup)
I JUST WANNA MAKE LOVE TO YOU (Dixon)

HONEST I DO (Reed)
I NEED YOU BABY
(McDaniels)
NOW I GOT A WITNESS (Phelge) the uncles, Phil has taken back the lead over Gene
LITTLE BY LITTLE (Phelge, Spector)

Side Two
I’M A KING BEE (Moore)
CAROL (Berry)
TELL ME (You’re Coming Back) (Jagger, Richards)
CAN I GET A WITNESS (E. & B. Holland, Dozier)
YOU CAN MAKE IT IF YOU TRY (Jarret)
WALKING THE DOG (Thomas)

 

 

 

 

All these cover changes took place during the first months of production in the summer of 1964. LP’s with the first and second back cover version have all the “Recording First Published In 1964” printed on the vinyl labels.
The vinyls inside the third cover has the “Recording First Published In 1964” text as well as the “P1964” text, depending if the vinyl was pressed 1964 or later.

 

 

It is a bit difficult to confirm which of these covers were first in production. My “Short Tell Me” vinyl version is in the third cover described here.  Matrix XARL6272-1A is for sure the first vinyl pressed. I would say that the cover were MONO is missing would be the first manufactured but maybe not actually used for the first LP's that were shipped from the pressing plant to the record shops. A possible scenario is that they noticed that Mono and the catalogue numbers were missing and they did not use them at first. My copy with Mono missing still has the very first label version indicating an early use of the cover. The second and third cover was probably used on the same time during the first few months of production and the third cover took over in the end of 1964.

 

 

“Flip covers” and “non flip covers”

A "flip cover" has the front cover partly glued on top of the back cover
A "non flip cover" has the front cover glued under the back cover.

Both covers were in production during 1964 and 1965. From 1966 all covers are non flip versions.

“I Need You Baby” can be found on both version were as “Mona” is always on flip covers

 

 

Printed by

 

“Printed in England by MacNeill Press, London S.E.1”  is always on flip covers during the non boxed period.

“Printed in England” can be found in both versions during the non boxed period.

Later pressings from the boxed period can be found in both versions

 

 

The three first back cover version are from the non boxed 60's prints

 

Flip cover with Printed in England by MacNeill Press               Flip cover with only “Printed in England”

 

  

 

Non flip cover with only "Printed in England"

 

  

 

 

The same texts appeared on the boxed 70's prints. Only non flip back covers were made in the 70's. 

  

Non flip cover with MacNeill Press                                               Non flip cover with only “Printed in England”

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

"The Blue Box" cover

 

Existing both as “Flipback cover” and “non flipback cover”

Some sleeves can be found with the Decca box on the front cover in blueish green colour were as normal covers have a black colour in the box.

The “blue box” is existing on both flipback and nonflipback sleeves. One copy has been found with label version S1/D1/V2 which is a label that has the recording First Published text, indication that the first “blue box” cover was made in 1964. A second LP in my collection has label S1/D5/V3 and S2/D5/V3 and the sleeve is a nonflipback. The label is made in 1967 indicating that a second batch was made around that time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"For Display Not For Sale"

 

A few copies are known to have been stamped with a “For Display Not For Sale” mark. These LP’s were probably sent to radio stations or to record shops as promo copies in April of 1964. This cover has a short Tell Me vinyl

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Label details on LK4605

 

LK4605 has lots of small details to take notice of. The design of the label was being changed several times during 1964. The individual differences existing are first listed and then they are listed as per combinations known to exist.

 

Credits on “Honest I Do”

 

LP’s pressed during 1964 have the song credited in two ways:

Honest I do (Hurran, Calvert)

Honest I Do (Reed)

“Hurran Calvert” is an earlier version and “Reed” is found on late 1964 version.
All LP’s pressed during 1965 and later have only “Reed” as song credit

 

Song title “Mona” or “I Need You Baby”

 

The forth song was first named "I Need You Baby".My Short Tell Me has I Need You Baby on the label. This was for some reason changed to "Mona” and then again back to "I Need You Baby".   All this took place during 1964.

 

Honest I Do” credits and  “Mona”   /   “I Need You Baby” title combinations existing

 

"Honest I Do" credited to Hurran and Calvert in combination with "I Need You Baby"

  

 

“Honest I Do” credited to Hurran and Calvert in combination with "Mona”

  

 

 

"Honest I Do" credited to Reed in combination with "I Need You Baby"
Route 66 also got the "Kicks" addition 

  

 

 

 

 

"MADE IN ENGLAND" / "MADE IN ENGLAND . THE DECCA RECORD CO.LTD." 

 

LP’s pressed during 1964 and1965 has two header text on the label:

 

MADE IN ENGLAND
or

MADE IN ENGLAND . THE DECCA RECORD CO.LTD.

 

The first short version of “Tell Me” has always “MADE IN ENGLAND. THE DECCA RECORD CO.LTD.” which indicates that both version were used during 1964. The "MADE IN ENGLAND" text can also be found with the P1964 indicating that it was used to some extent during 1965 as well.
Pressings from 1966 or later do always have the longer version “MADE IN ENGLAND. THE DECCA RECORD CO.LTD.”

 

    

 

 

 

 

 

"Recording First Published 1964"

All LP's manufactured in 1964, the same year it was issued, has a small marking on the label:  "Recording First Published 1964".
If this text is missing, then there is a circulated P and 1964 on the label. That means that it is manufactured 1965 or later.

    

 

Publisher on Honest I Do, track C on side 1

Two different publishers have been noted for Honest I Do: “Cromwell Music” and “Burlington Music”. Majority of all “Cromwell” are found on labels with the long Made In England By Decca Record Co and all “Cromwell” labels has the Recording First Published 1964 which means that “Cromwell” is used earlier than “Burlington”

 

   


 

 

 

Nonboxed label versions

 

 Side 1

 

Lots of label versions are existing on the first Rolling Stones LP. Not only versions but combination of different versions on the both LP sides are found as well.

The labels on side 1 are listed first, followed by side 2 and then all combinations of the both sides.

 

 

 

Side 1 / Design No 1 / Version 1 (LK4605/S1/D1/V1) 

 

Top text: “MADE IN ENGLAND . THE DECCA RECORD CO.LTD.”

Publishing year: "Recording First Published 1964"

Song credits for track 3 on side 1: HONEST I DO (Hurran, Calvert)

Song title for track 4 on side 1: I NEED YOU BABY

Publisher for track C Honest I Do on side 1: Cromwell Music

Copyright box: BIEM – NCB box is on the right side of the label

Tax Code: K/T

Font: Times New Roman looking font style

 

This is the first label edition on LK4605, estimated use is spring of 1964

 

This label version can be found with the short Tell Me version with matrix number XARL6272-1A & -2A. It is also used on LP’s with the long Tell Me with matrix number XARL6272-3A or higher.

This label version with "I Need You Baby" can be found in covers with "Mona" as well as in covers with "I Need You Baby"

 

 

 

 

Side 1 / Design No 1 /Version 2 (LK4605/S1/D1/V2)

 

Top text: “MADE IN ENGLAND . THE DECCA RECORD CO.LTD.”

Publishing year: "Recording First Published 1964"

Song Credits for track 3 on side 1: HONEST I DO (Hurran, Calvert)

Song title for track 4 on side 1: MONA

Publisher for track C Honest I Do on side 1: Cromwell Music

Copyright box: NCB box on the right side of the label

Tax Code: K/T

Font: Times New Roman looking font style

 

Major difference to the previous label is the change of title on song 4. It is now named “Mona”. This label is also missing the BIEM text.

 

This is the second label edition on LK4605, estimated use is spring of 1964

 

This label version can be found with the short Tell Me version with matrix number XARL6272-1A & -2A. It is also used on LP’s with the long Tell Me with matrix number XARL6272-3A or higher.

"Mona" label can be found in covers with "Mona" as well as covers with "I Need You Baby"

 

 

 

 

 

Side 1 / Design No 1 /Version 3 (LK4605/S1/D1/V3)

 

Top text: “MADE IN ENGLAND . THE DECCA RECORD CO.LTD.”

Publishing year: "Recording First Published 1964"

Song Credits for track 3 on side 1: HONEST I DO (Hurran, Calvert

Song title for track 4 on side 1: I NEED YOU BABY

Publisher for track C Honest I Do on side 1: Burlington Music

Copyright box: BIEM – NCB box is on the right side of the label

Tax Code: K/T

Font: Times New Roman looking font style

 

This is the third label edition on LK4605, estimated use is summer of 1964

 

Major difference to the previous label is the change of publisher on song C, Honest I Do. Burlington Music is now given as the publisher. The two previous versions had Cromwell. Otherwise this one is more or less identical to the first label.

 

 

 

 

 

Side 1 / Design No 2 /Version 1 (LK4605/S1/D2/V1)

 

Top text: “MADE IN ENGLAND”

Publishing year: “Recording First Published 1964

Song Credits for track 3 on side 1: HONEST I DO (Reed)

Song title for track 4 on side 1: I NEED YOU BABY

Publisher for track C Honest I Do on side1: Burlington Music

Copyright box: NCBand BIEM box on the left side of the label

Tax Code: K/T

Font: Arial looking font style

 

This is the forth label edition on LK4605, estimated use is late 1964 and early 1965

 

Major difference on this label compared to earlier versions is the short Made In England top text. This is the first label with short top text. Made only in late 1964 as it still has the "Recording first published 1964"

 

 

 

 

 

Side 1 / Design No 3 /Version 1 (LK4605/S1/D3/V1)

 

Top text: “MADE IN ENGLAND”

Publishing year: P 1964

Song credit: HONEST I DO (Reed)

Song title: I NEED YOU BABY

Publisher for track C Honest I Do on side 1: Burlington Music

Copyright box: NCB andBIEM box on the left side of the label

Tax Code: K/T

Font: Arial looking font style

 

This is the fifth label edition on LK4605, estimated use is 1965

 

Major difference on this label compared to earlier versions is that P1964 is now replacing the Recording First Published 1964. This one was probably made only in 1965 as it has a combination of the short top text and P1964. The long top text version returned to all Decca LP’s in late 1965

 

 

 

 

Side 1 / Design No 4 /Version 1 (LK4605/S1/D4/V1)

 

Top text: “MADE IN ENGLAND . THE DECCA RECORD CO.LTD.”

Publishing year: P 1964

Song credit: HONEST I DO (Reed)

Song title: I NEED YOU BABY

Publisher for track CHonest I Do on side 1: Burlington Music

Copyright box:NCB and BIEM box on the left side of the label

Tax Code: K/T

Font: Arial looking font style

 

This is the sixth label edition on LK4605, estimated use is late 1965 to 1968

 

The long top text has replaced the short version. It is easy to date as it is the first long top text version that has P1964. All other Decca LP's at that time did have the long version as well. To be noted is that P1964 is still on the left side of the label.

This label can be found on grooved as well as on nongrooved pressings.

 

 

  

 

 

 

Side 1 / Design No 5 /Version 1 (LK4605/S1/D5/V1)

 

Top text: “MADE IN ENGLAND . THE DECCA RECORD CO.LTD.”

Publishing year: P 1964 at the bottom

Song credit: HONEST I DO (Reed)

Song title: INEED YOU BABY

Publisher for track C Honest I Do on side 1: Burlington Music

Copyright box: NCB andBIEM box on the left side of the label

Tax Code: J/T

Font: Arial looking font style

 

Seventh label edition,estimateduse is1968 to end of 1969

 

Publishers are now mentioned after each song title. This one is on a non grooved pressing confirming the manufacturing time to be in between summer of 1968 and end of 1969. It still has the Tax Code printed on the label

 

 

 

 

Side 1 / Design No 5 /Version 2 (LK4605/S1/D5/V2)

 

Top text: “MADE IN ENGLAND . THE DECCA RECORD CO.LTD.”

Publishing year: P 1964 at the bottom

Song credit: HONEST I DO (Reed)

Song title: I NEED YOU BABY

Publisher for track C Honest I Do on side 1: Burlington Music

Copyright box: NCB and BIEM box on the left side of the label

 

Tax code: Missing

Font: Arial looking font style

 

Eight and final non boxed issue, estimated use end of 1969

 

This is the last non boxed label made on LK4605. Almost identical to the previous version 1, the only difference is that the tax code is now missing from the label

 

 

 

 

Side 1 / Design No 5 / Version 3 (LK4605/S1/D5/V3)

 

Top text: “MADE IN ENGLAND . THE DECCA RECORD CO.LTD.”

Publishing year: P 1964 at the bottom

Song credit: HONEST I DO (Reed)

Song title: I NEED YOU BABY

Publisher for track C Honest I Do on side 1: Burlington Music

Copyright box: NCB and BIEM box on the left side of the label

Tax code: Missing

Font: Arial looking font style

 

This label is almost identical to the D5/V2 label The only minor difference is that the BIEM box is located in a slightly different position. The label can be found on both grooved and nongrooved pressings. Decca stopped pressing vinyls with the groove in the summer of 1968, so this label was used in production during 1968. It is rather interesting as it is missing the tax codes.

The grooved label is in a sleeve that has the bluish gray DECCA box on the front sleeve.

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nonboxed label versions

 

Side 2

 

 

Side 2 / Design No 1 / Version 1 (LK4605/S2/D1/V1)

 

Top text: “MADE IN ENGLAND . THE DECCA RECORD CO.LTD.”

Publishing year: "Recording First Published 1964"

Song Publishers: All on the left side of the label

Copyright box: NCB box is on the right side of the label

Tax Code: K/T

Font: Times New Roman looking font style

 

This is the first label edition of side 2 on LK4605, estimated use is spring of 1964

 

This label version can be found with the short Tell Me version with matrix number XARL6272-1A & -2A. It is also used on LP’s with the long Tell Me with matrix number XARL6272-3A or higher.

This label version with "I Need You Baby" can be found in covers with "Mona" as well as in covers with "I Need You Baby"

 

 

 

 

Side 2 / Design No 2 / Version 1 (LK4605/S2/D2/V1)

 

Top text: “MADE IN ENGLAND”

Publishing year: "Recording First Published 1964"

Song Publishers: Split in between the sides of the label

Copyright box: NCB and BIEM box is on the left side of the label

Tax Code: K/T

Font: Arial looking font style

 

This is the second label edition of side 2 on LK4605, estimated use is end of 1964

 

The major changes on this version is the short top text and the addition of the BIEM box

 

 

 

 

Side 2 / Design No 3 / Version 1 (LK4605/S2/D3/V1)

 

Top text: “MADE IN ENGLAND”

Publishing year: "P 1964"

Song Publishers: Split in between the sides of the label

Copyright box: NCB and BIEM box is on the left side of the label

Tax Code: K/T

Font: Arial looking font style

 

This is the third label edition of side 2 on LK4605, estimated use is early 1965

 

The major changes on this version is that the "Recording First Published 1964" has been replaced with P1964

 

 

 

 

Side 2 / Design No 4 / Version 1 (LK4605/S2/D4/V1)

 

Top text: “MADE IN ENGLAND . THE DECCA RECORD CO.LTD.”

Publishing year: "P 1964"

Song Publishers: Split in between the sides of the label

Copyright box: NCB and BIEM box is on the left side of the label

Tax Code: K/T

Font: Arial looking font style

 

This is the forth label edition of side 2 on LK4605, estimated use is late 1965 to 1968

 

The major changes on this version is that the “MADE IN ENGLAND . THE DECCA RECORD CO.LTD. has replaced the short version. This label can be found on grooved as well as on nongrooved pressings.

 

  

 

 

 

Side 2 / Design No 5 / Version 1 (LK4605/S2/D5/V1)

 

Top text: “MADE IN ENGLAND . THE DECCA RECORD CO.LTD.”

Publishing year: "P 1964" is on the bottom of the label

Song Publishers: mentioned after each song title

Copyright box: NCB and BIEM box is on the left side of the label

Tax Code: J/T

Font: Arial looking font style

 

This is the fifth label edition of side 2 on LK4605, estimated use is1968 to end of 1969

 

Publishers are now mentioned after each song title. It has the non grooved label confirming the manufacturing time to be in between summer of 1968 and end of 1969. It still has the Tax Code printed on the label

 

 

 

 

Side 2 / Design No 5 / Version 2 (LK4605/S2/D5/V2)

 

Top text: “MADE IN ENGLAND . THE DECCA RECORD CO.LTD.”

Publishing year: "P 1964" is on the bottom of the label

Song Publishers: mentioned after each song title

Copyright box: NCB and BIEM box is on the left side of the label

Tax Code: Missing

Font: Arial looking font style

 

This is the sixth label edition of side 2 on LK4605, estimated use is end of 1969

 

This is the last non boxed label made on LK4605. The tax Code is now missing on the label, otherwise it is identical to the previous version.

 

 

 

 

Side 2 / Design No 5 / Version 3 (LK4605/S2/D5/V3)

 

Top text: “MADE IN ENGLAND . THE DECCA RECORD CO.LTD.”

Publishing year: "P 1964" is on the bottom of the label

Song Publishers: mentioned after each song title

Copyright box: NCB and BIEM box is on the left side of the label

Tax Code: Missing

Font: Arial looking font style

 

This label is almost identical to the D5/V2 label The only minor difference is that the BIEM box is located in a slightly different position. The special thing with this version is that it is on a grooved vinyl. Decca stopped pressing vinyls with the groove in the summer of 1968, so this label was used in production during the first half of 1968. It is rather interesting as it is missing the tax codes.

This LP is in a sleeve that has the bluish gray DECCA box on the front sleeve

 

 

 

 

 

Side 2 / Design No 5 / Version 4 (LK4605/S2/D5/V4)

 

Top text: “MADE IN ENGLAND . THE DECCA RECORD CO.LTD.”

Publishing year: "P 1964" is on the bottom of the label

Song Publishers: mentioned after each song title

Copyright box: NCB and BIEM box is on the left side of the label

Tax Code: Missing

Font: Arial looking font style

 

This label is almost identical to the D5/V3 label. Song number 4 has the wrong title, I Can Get A Witness when it sould be Can I Get.. The label is combined with S1/D5/V3 and that version was used during the second half of 1968 which would indicate that this misspelling is from 1968

 

 

 

Nonboxed label combinations

 

 

The followingcombinations of labels have been found on this LP. As it hasbeen pressed in large quantities there are also a lot of combinations existing.

 

 

This is thecorrect label combination for design 1

 

Side 1 - Design No 1 / Version 1    Side 2 - Design No 1 / Version 1

(S1/D1/V1 + S2/D1/V1)

 

   

 

 

 

 Side 1 - Design No 1 / Version 2    Side 2 - Design No 1 / Version 1

(S1/D1/V2 + S2/D1/V1)

   

   

 

 

  

Side 1 - Design No 1 / Version 3    Side 2 - Design No 1 / Version 1

(S1/D1/V3 + S2/D1/V1)

   

  

 

 

 

Side 1 - Design No 1 / Version 3    Side 2 - Design No 2 / Version 1

(S1/D1/V3 + S2/D2/V1)

 

   

 

 

 

Side 1 - Design No 1 / Version 3    Side 2 - Design No 3 / Version 1

(S1/D1/V3 + S2/D3/V1)

  

  

  

 

 

This is the correctlabel combination for design 2

 

Side 1 - Design No 2 / Version 1    Side 2 - Design No 2 / Version 1

(S1/D2/V1 + S2/D2/V1)

 

   

 

 

 

This is the correct label combination for design 3

 

Side 1 - Design No 3 / Version 1    Side 2 - Design No 3 / Version 1

(S1/D3/V1 + S2/D3/V1)


   

 

 

 

This is thecorrect label combination for design 4

 

Side 1 - Design No 4 / Version 1    Side 2 - Design No 4 / Version 1

(S1/D4/V1 + S2/D4/V1)

 

   

 

The same label on a nongrooved pressing

 

  



 

This is thecorrect label combination for design 5

 

Side 1 - Design No 5 / Version 1    Side 2 - Design No 5 Version 1

(S1/D5/V1 + S2/D5/V1)

  

   

 

  

  

Side 1 - Design No 5 / Version 2    Side 2 - Design No 5 Version 2

(S1/D5/V2 + S2/D5/V2)

  

  

 

 

Side 1 - Design No 5 / Version 3     Side 2 - Design No 5 Version 3

(S1/D5/V3 + S2/D5/V3)

 

   

 

 

 

Side 1 - Design No 5 / Version 3     Side 2 - Design No 5 Version 4

(S1/D5/V3 + S2/D5/V4)

 

   

 

 

 

 

 

Dating of Non Boxed label versions

 

It is possible to determinate which of all these label version came before another on. This can be done by investigating the following details on the labels:

-          Top text, long or short version

-          Recording first published in 1964 or P1964

-          Publisher Cromwell or Burlington

-          Titles and song credits on side 1

-          Tax Codes

 

I would base my opinion on the order of issue like this:

 

  1. Short Tell Me is always with Made In England By Decca Record Co = first issue, then the long top text is an earlier one than the short text
  2. Recording first published 1964 is used on all LP’s made that year
  3. P1964 is used on LP’s made in 1965 or later
  4. The publisher Cromwell is only found on labels that have the long top text and Recording First Published 1964
  5. The publisher Burlington can be found with the long top text together with Rec First Pub 1964 (Made before the short top text version) as well as with P1964 (Made after the short top text version)
  6. Majority of Burlingtons are found on labels with short top text together with P1964.
  7. All boxed Decca labels do only have Burlington This indicates that Burlington is a later version

 

The order in which the labesl were used is the following, change from the previous label is in bold text:

 

First issue, estimated use spring 1964

Made In England By Decca Record Co / Publisher is Cromwell / Recording First Published 1964 / Honest I Do has Hurran Calvert / Title 4 is I Need You Baby / Tax Code KT

 

Second issue, estimated use spring 1964

Made In England By Decca Record Co / Publisher is Cromwell / Recording First Published 1964 / Honest I Do has Hurran Calvert / Title 4 is Mona / Tax Code KT

 

 

Third issue, estimated use summer 1964

Made In England By Decca Record Co / Publisher is Burlington / Recording First Published 1964 / Honest I Do has Hurran Calvert / Title 4 is I Need You Baby / Tax Code KT

 

 

Fourth issue, estimated late use 1964 and early 1965

Made In England  / Publisher is Burlington / Recording First Published 1964 / Honest I Do has Reed / Title 4 is I Need You Baby / Tax Code KT

 

 

Fifth issue, estimated use 1965

Made In England  / Publisher is Burlington / P1964 / Honest I Do has Reed / Title 4 is I Need You Baby / Tax Code KT

 

 

Sixth issue, estimated use late 1965 to 1968

Made In England By Decca Record Co  / Publisher is Burlington / P1964 to the left

/ Honest I Do has Reed / Title 4 is I Need You Baby / Tax Code KT

 

 

Seventh issue, estimated use end of 1968 and 1969, non grooved label

Made In England By Decca Record Co  / Publisher is Burlington / P1964 at the bottom / Honest I Do has Reed / Title 4 is I Need You Baby / Tax Code JT

 

 

Eight issue, estimated use end of 1969, non grooved label

Made In England By Decca Record Co  / Publisher is Burlington / P1964 at the bottom / Honest I Do has Reed / Title 4 is I Need You Baby / Tax Code missing

 

D5/V3 has been found and added to the set of labels after completion of this list. It is almost identical to the eight version but used on a grooved pressing which means that it is an earlier label. This label confirms that versions without tax codes has been used on LK4605 before summer of 1968.

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

Boxed label versions

  

Side 1

 

Side 1 / Design No 6 / Version 1 (LK4605/S1/D6/V1)

 

Publishing year: At the bottom of the label

Speed: Not on the label

Font style: Ariel looking

Estimated use: 1970 to 1972

 

 

 

 

 

Side 1 / Design No 6 / Version 2 (LK4605/S1/D6/V2)

 

Publishing year: At the bottom of the label

Speed: Not on the label

Font style: Ariel looking

Estimated use: 1970 to 1972

 

Basically the same label as the previous but MONO logo is missing.

 

 

 

 

Side 1 / Design No 7 / Version 1 (LK4605/S1/D7/V1)

 

Publishing year: Above the catalogue number to the right of the label

Speed: Small fonts at the left of the label

Font style: Times New Roman looking

Estimated use: 1972 and later

 

 

 

 

 

Side 1 / Design No 7 / Version 2 (LK4605/S1/D7/V2)

 

Publishing year: Above the catalogue number to the right of the label

Speed: Two times at the left of the label

Font style: Times New Roman looking

Estimated use: End of 70’s

 

 

 

 

 

Side 1 / Design No 12 / Version 1 (LK4605/S1/D12/V1)

 

Publishing year: Above the catalogue number to the right of the label

Speed: Small fonts at the left of the label

Font style: Ariel looking

Estimated use: 1982 – 1983

 

This is the last boxed red Decca label used on this LP. The vinyl is very thin and the label has a rim around it

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Boxed label versions

 

  Side 2

 

 

Side 2 / Design No 6 / Version 1 (LK4605/S2/D6/V1)

 

Publishing year: At the bottom of the label

Speed: Not on the label

Font style: Ariel looking

BIEM / NCB: Boxed

Estimated use: 1970 to 1972

 

 

 

 

 

Side 2 / Design No 6 / Version 2 (LK4605/S2/D6/V2)

 

Publishing year: At the bottom of the label

Speed: Not on the label

Font style: Ariel looking

Estimated use: 1970 to 1972

 

Basically the same label as the previous but MONO logo is missing.

 

 

 

 

Side 2 / Design No 7 / Version 1 (LK4605/S2/D7/V1)

 

Publishing year: Above the catalogue number to the right of the label

Speed: Small fonts at the left of the label

Font style: Times New Roman looking

BIEM / NCB: Boxed

Estimated use: 1972 and later

 

 

 

 

 

Side 2 / Design No 7 / Version 2 (LK4605/S2/D7/V2)

 

Publishing year: Above the catalogue number to the right of the label

Speed: Two times at the left of the label

Font style: Times New Roman looking

BIEM / NCB: Boxed

Estimated use: End of 70’s

 

 

 

 

 

Side 2 / Design No 12 / Version 1 (LK4605/S2/D12/V1)

 

Publishing year: Above the catalogue number to the right of the label

Speed: Small fonts at the left of the label

BIEM / NCB: Not boxed

Font style: Ariel looking

Estimated use: 1982 – 1983

 

This is the last boxed red Decca label used on this LP. The vinyl is very thin and the label has a rim around it

 

 

 

 

Boxed label combinations

 

Side 1 / Design No 6 / Version 1    Side 2 / Design No 6 / Version 1

(S1/D6/V1 + S2/D6/V1)

  

 

 

 

Side 1 / Design No 6 / Version 2    Side 2 / Design No 6 / Version 2

(S1/D6/V2 + S2/D6/V2)

 

  

 

 

 

Side 1 / Design No 7 / Version 1    Side 2 / Design No 7 / Version 1

(S1/D7/V1 + S2/D7/V1)

 

     

 

 

 

Side 1 / Design No 7 / Version 2    Side 2 / Design No 7 / Version 2

(S1/D7/V2 + S2/D7/V2)

 

    

 

 

 

Side 1 / Design No 12 / Version 1    Side 2 / Design No 12 / Version 1

(S1/D12/V1 + S2/D12/V1)

 

  

 

 

 

 

Design No 13 / Version 1.

 

Mid 80's pressing

 

  

 

 

 

Explanation on label design numbering can be found here

 

 

 

 

 

Factory Sample Test Pressing

 

Factory Sample label with thematrix numbers stamped on the label. Side 1 has -2A and side 2 has -3A This is an rather early test pressing most probably made in 1964. I have stock copies with the same matrix numbers that has “Recording First Published 1964” which indicates that this test was made during that period. This test pressing is in Adriaan Neervorts collection.

 

  

 

 

 

 

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Page history

Page created Jan 27th 2010

 

Updates:

 

March 18th 2011 – Nongrooved label versions of S1 and S2/D4/V1 added

 

March 5th 2011 – Label pair D5/V3 and new info on the blue Decca logo on the cover has been added

November 22nd 2010 - Test pressing labels added

November 19th 2010 - Label version D6/V2 added

October 3rd 2010 - Major change of the label documentation set up

September 29th 2010 - New label design added

August 16th 2010 - Flip back cover with Printed In England added, thanks Dartford

June 13th 2010 - New Mono and LK4605 missing pic added

May 23rd 2010 - Promo Display stamp on cover added

May 10th 2010 - New text on most of the non boxed labels.

May 10th 2010 - Dating of non boxed labels added

May 10th 2010 - Cromwell and Burlington pics added

April 30th 2010 - The publisher added on labe text

April 30th 2010 - Design 1 Verson 3 with Burlington Music added

April 2nd 2010 - Boxed label Design no 7 version 3 added

March 5th 2010 - Label design 6 / 1 added

March 12th 2012 - Short Tell Me 2A2A pics added

April 14th 2012 - Side 2 D5/V4 I Can Get A Witness added